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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233559924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233559924">(Apr 07 2021 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey project leads! I want to get some feedback on an idea I've been working on. I call it the <a href="https://hackmd.io/9tAEgpO1Sy2UTytnpkC9cA?view">Cross Team Collaboration Fun Times</a>, or CTCFT for short (continuing Rust's tradition of joyfully inscrutable acronyms). The idea is to have a meeting, held every 2 weeks, where we will:</p>
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<li>To celebrate and raise awareness of what is happening in the project.</li>
<li>To track progress on important efforts and communicate requests between teams.</li>
<li>To give a forum for cross-team discussion and collaboration.</li>
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<p>This is similar to, but also radically different from, the "leadership sync" meeting that we attempted before. Some key differences:</p>
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<li>The agenda will be curated and selected in advance (I'm planning to do that role, but I'd love help);</li>
<li>We will not give status updates, but will focus on items that offer lessons/action-items for other teams, or where interesting discussion is needed;</li>
<li>Meetings will be recorded and publicly posted.</li>
<li>The meeting targets all active members of Rust teams and groups, but it will be an open meeting, with anyone welcome to observe (but you will have to request the zoom link, which gives a bit of a chance to orient folks).</li>
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<p>I'm hoping to organize the first meeting for May 2nd (first Monday in May). I'd love feedback on the idea but also suggestions for initial agenda items. </p>
<p>One particular thing I'm trying to decide is what time of day -- I expect we'll have to alternate a bit to manage time zone access. (Also-- maybe monthly is better?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233563810" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233563810">(Apr 07 2021 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>If we're making the name inscrutable anyway, can we call it the <a href="https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/Interesting_Times_Gang">"Cross Team Collaboration Interesting Times Gang"</a> instead? <span aria-label="wink" class="emoji emoji-1f609" role="img" title="wink">:wink:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233565478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233565478">(Apr 07 2021 at 21:21)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Is it a complex issue and you wish to talk through ideas?<br>
Is it a project with a lot of vaiables involves and you want everyone on the same page?</p>
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<p>Hmm, is it common to want to talk through ideas/keep people informed with the <em>whole</em> rust-lang org? that seems a little overkill</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233565588" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233565588">(Apr 07 2021 at 21:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>most of my "yes" answers to that question only need people from the relevant team involved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233565796" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233565796">(Apr 07 2021 at 21:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><del>maybe this is a less demanding way to say it - what sort of topics do you expect to discuss?</del> never mind, missed the agenda: <a href="https://hackmd.io/QZrDNeUXRsKtQuyjdpH0Pw">https://hackmd.io/QZrDNeUXRsKtQuyjdpH0Pw</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233571208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233571208">(Apr 07 2021 at 22:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Gotta run, but brief answers <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="232545">@Joshua Nelson</span> </p>
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<li>I can't change the name because I love the gif too much</li>
<li>I don't necessarily expect every agenda item to be interested to every person; this is why we would publish the agenda in advance, so folks don't necessarily have to show up if it doesn't look like it covers things that interest them;</li>
<li>I think that specific team pairings may want to have their own sync meetings, also</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233571246" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233571246">(Apr 07 2021 at 22:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>That said, I think it's more common than you think. For example, I've encountered quite a few people who have no real clue on what is happening with the 2021 Edition</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233571269" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233571269">(Apr 07 2021 at 22:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also think vision doc like efforts could easily apply to everyone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233571295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233571295">(Apr 07 2021 at 22:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>As far as agenda items, I actually have a specific proposed agenda, but I decided to scrub it and move the examples into the main doc -- I figured it'd be interesting to see what people came to me with</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/233571345" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#233571345">(Apr 07 2021 at 22:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do plan to invest a fair bit of time in actively talking to folks and forming up a quality agenda though-- and maybe we can skip a meeting if it doesn't seem like there's enough. This might be a reason to start with monthly, to see how much stuff we have.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/238566944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> technetos <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#238566944">(May 13 2021 at 01:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did the hackmd document get moved?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/238567156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> technetos <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#238567156">(May 13 2021 at 01:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I found everything in the gh repo so its not a problem, but the link seems to 404</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/238685260" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#238685260">(May 13 2021 at 21:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah, yeah, I removed the hackmd docs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/cross%20team%20collaboration%20fun%20times/near/238685280" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/cross.20team.20collaboration.20fun.20times.html#238685280">(May 13 2021 at 21:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>when I created the public gh repo</p>



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